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Thank you, Adrienne!
I am sending you a link to register for the meeting via Facebook. It is not the same group. The group that is guided by me through the fetters meets. The meeting takes place in Christiane’s Zoom room.
You can also join the Open Fetter Group – up to you.
🙂
Liebe Suzana!
Ich habe noch eine Übung für dich:
Mach es dir bequem und schließ die Augen.
Atme ein paar Mal tief ein und aus.
Mit jedem Einatmen richte dich auf. Strecke dich. Werde lange.
Mit jedem Ausatmen lasse alles fallen. Entspanne dich. Werde sanft.Jetzt nimm noch einen tiefen Atemzug und atme dann wieder normal.
Achte sofort darauf, ob du eine Art Verkörperung spürst:
Hast du das Gefühl, dass du dich mit derjenigen identifizierst, die jetzt gerade sitzt? Und wenn ja, hast du eine Vorstellung davon? Es kann auch nur eine vage Vorstellung sein, die du nicht genau einordnen kannst.Hier schau in den Körper. Fühle die Körperempfindungen. Tauchen vielleicht mentale Bilder auf? Erzählen die Gedanken etwas?
Schaue ob es sich so anfühlt, als ob es etwas gibt, das verkörpert ist. Etwas, das hier ist. Hier sitzt. Etwas erwartet. Hier ist für einen Zweck. Hier, um etwas hiermit zu erreichen. Um vielleicht etwas anders oder weiser, kenntnisreicher, ruhiger, friedlicher, entspannter zu werden. Irgendetwas.
🙂
Dear Adrienne!
I’m sorry it took me so long to answer. I was in Bremen with my family because my uncle passed away.
Yes, take a break. I had already asked you whether it would be possible. Just let the inquiry rest completely and don’t write anything more here. Just observe whether and when the I-feeling arises. Write down when it arises, where and how it feels.
Do this until December 9. On December 9 at 7:30 pm Berlin time, you are cordially invited to join the English-speaking group of those who are inquiring into the fetters with me and Christiane. Let me know if this works for you.🙂 Steffi
Dear Adrienne!
What will your experience be like when the self illusion falls away? How will you perceive the world and yourself afterwards?
Even if we usually want to leave thoughts out, here they are in demand. Take a few days and let your thoughts answer this question. And if your thoughts say they have no expectations, don’t let them get away with it. Dig deeper.
Are you still working with another guide? With Elad or Vince? Or maybe you are still looking at what they asked you?
What if I ask you not to make any inquiries for two weeks, but just to observe whether and when the sense of self arises and to write it down (when it arises, how it feels, etc.)?🙂
Dear Adrienne!
It is clear that the self is a thought, and yet a sense of self arises?
If that is the case, then focus your attention directly on this sense of self. The sense of self is the object of inquiry.
Observe the sense of self as it arises in the present moment and then look (with the five senses).
Is there really a self to be found? Where is the one to be found who is thinking?
Do not consider the thoughts or draw any conclusions. Just look.
If the thought arises: There is no self, or there cannot be a self because of this or that, then put that thought aside, do not believe that thought either, and look again with a fresh view.
It is important to keep looking with a fresh view, as if you were looking for the self for the first time.
Let’s separate the terms “self” and “sense of self”.
Sense of self = the object of investigation
Self = the supposed assumption of an entity that controls everything.🙂 Steffi
Hi Steffi
The imaginary self manifests itself when the body is reacting to a situation out of conditioning. It is usually in the form of irritation these days or it can be envy. There is an intense unpleasant sensation in the stomach that the body wants to distract from by actions like shouting or crying. When my friend had an awakening a few months ago, I felt intense envy. I was trying to do self-inquiry as to who is feeling this envy, but I was too upset at the time. How do you recommend inquiring into the sense of self? How do you look? Not with your eyes, then how? AdrienneDear Adrienne! Thank you for writing daily and letting me be a part of it. How to explore the self is a very good question. We look at the self with the five senses: Hearing, seeing, touching, smelling and tasting. And we look to see if we can find a true self in the self sense. So yes, I looked with my eyes. How do you look? Please explain in detail how you look for the self.
Have a nice weekend 🙂
Thank you, Adrienne!
What do you expect that liberation is going to be like?
What do you want from it?
How do you imagine a liberated human behaves?
What should it be like?
What will it give you, what do you hope for?
What don’t you want it to be like?🙂
Dear Adrienne!
Is this something you have read somewhere or “made up”? Or something you experience?
🙂 Steffi
Thank you for writing to me in the last few days about your request. The more you write, the more you help me.
I think what’s happening here is that the mind has given up. It’s not trying to figure this out any more. It’s not throwing tantrums any more, either, in the form of frustration. It has sort of resigned to the situation – that there is nothing to do, nothing to understand, and no-one to understand. Resigned to the fact that there is no shift. That there is only silence. Accepted the fact that the one who was hoping for a shift doesn’t exist. It still feels like it is the seeker that is giving up. Everything is getting more quiet. Maybe surrender is the right word.
Yes, it’s very good that the mind has given up. That it has resigned itself to the situation that there is nothing for him to do in this search for the self. The self illusion is created by thoughts and therefore thoughts or the mind will not be able to dissolve this illusion.
I now ask you a question every day. Please only deal with this one question and answer as soon as you have a solution, an answer or an intermediate state.
What we are doing here is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, seperate, inherent ’self‘ – what do you understand by this?
🙂 Steffi
Dear Adrienne!
Thank you for agreeing.
Are you asking me to stop meditating?
You don’t have to stop meditating, but maybe you will do this meditation from now on?
When you enquire into the 10 fetters that prevent the awakened state from being the ’normal‘ state, it is very helpful to practise again and again the method of finding out whether something is actually experienced or it is just made up.
This method comes from the shortest instruction given by the Buddha to a seeker. The seeker, a man from Bahiya, grasped it immediately.
And this is what the Buddha said.
### The Bahiya Sutta
Bahiya, you will realise:
> In the seen, there will simply be the seen.
In the heard there will simply be the heard
In the thought there will simply be the thought
In the recognised there will be simply the recognised;
In all this you will not be seen, heard, thought or recognised.
If you are not seen, heard, thought or recognised, you are not there.
If You are not there, You do not exist, there or elsewhere.
This is the end of suffering.### Meditation
Sit comfortably and upright.
On a chair, or on the floor.Breathe deeply a few times.
Feel the pressure of the seat, the feet on the floor.
Feel the sensations of the moving breath.
Do you feel it is too fast or too shallow, nice and deep and calm?Whatever it is, let it be as it is. Everything is allowed to be as it is.
What thoughts are there?
Let them wander freely and notice what they are about.
All thoughts are allowed.
Breathe gently and let the thoughts be there, all of them.Feel the sensations that follow the thoughts.
And notice the thoughts that follow the sensations.What is your mood, how do you feel?
All feelings are allowed, without making them bigger or smaller.
Pay attention to the thought comments, they are also allowed.
If you want the thoughts to disappear, notice that too.Listen to the sounds that are there.
Traffic, people, maybe music.
Pay attention to the names and the comments of the thoughts.
Maybe you like the sounds or not. Maybe there is resistance to the traffic noise.Everything can be as it is.
Then open your eyes and just see what is there. What colours? What lines? Turn your head slowly back and forth.
Close your eyes again and go to the next sense.
Smell what you can smell right now.
Then taste what you can taste right now.
Let everything simply be as it is.
Now feel the sensations of the moving breath again and stay with it as long as you like.
This is the life your body is going through. Everything else is a thought story.
Then take a deep breath and end the meditation.
Dear Deniz! Could you come over to the chat:
https://matrix.to/#/#stromeintritt:matrix.orgI guide all community members there.
Dear Adrienne!
I am learning English on a platform called Preply. Do you know it? Maybe this is something that could work for you: https://preply.com/en/teach
Okay, let’s start from scratch. I think this will work best for me and you 🙂
## Are you ready?
– Are you ready to make the inquiry into self illusion a top priority?
– Are you ready to write to me daily about your inquiry?
– Are you ready to put your current practice (meditations, satsangs, esoteric practices, nonduality talks, dharma, sangha, etc.) on hold for the time of the inquiry?
– Are you ready to put aside all *spiritual* books, videos and audios for the time of the inquiry?
– Are you ready to fully engage in the inquiry of your own experience?
– Are you ready not to abandon the process you have begun, even if unpleasant feelings arise?
– Are you ready to question all your beliefs and preconceptions about awakening?
– Are you ready to be 100% honest with yourself?## Process
**Very important: You should have time for the inquiry. It should (be able to) be your #1 priority **
Regarding the process, I suggest that you take at least one hour every day for the inquiry. It doesn’t have to be all at once. You can integrate the inquiry into your daily routine. This usually works best. Checking again and again, in between. While going for a walk, waiting in the checkout queue, during your lunch break, looking out of the window…
Please put aside all *spiritual* books, videos and audios for the time being. They will not help you. You will only clarify in your own direct experience the question of why we call a self our own.
Please do not participate in any satsangs, meditations, nonduality talks, spiritual or esoteric workshops or seminars, online meetings, etc. during your time here. Let your spiritual/Buddhist/or similar practice rest. Concentrate fully on this inquiry.
I will not teach you anything. I will ask questions and you look into your own experience for the answer. That is your task! It is important to base your answer on direct experience, not on thoughts, conclusions or assumptions. You want to see the truth directly.
Please be 100% honest. Anything else is useless. There are no right and wrong answers.
When you have found the answer, write it to me. If you have an intermediate result, write to me. If you get stuck, write to me too. **Daily**
I’m on from Monday to Thursday and usually reply every day. If I can’t do it myself, you can just do the exercises again.
At the weekend it’s family time and I’m not usually here.
I am happy to be able to guide you.
Hi Deniz!
This is my guiding offer: https://stromeintritt.org/en/guiding-offer/
Alternatively, take a look at the exercises I sent you and we’ll talk about them in the Open Fetter Group.
> I still have a sense of free will. I still feel like I can have a choice
This is the sense to look at! When you feel that sense of free will, look closer. Where is it? How does it feel exactly? Are there body sensations connected to it? Look at them. Can they do anything?
🙂 Steffi
